Dear all-enlightening Suw, your squelching knowledge is something which us lower-ladder bound males could only wish to emulate. (Re squelching, good or bad, the male view is invariably "nice if you can get it"). Personally, being an ulcerface, my chances are less than the average. On the other hand, if you could squelch in other directions then how about Proposal B : I'll squelch your ulcers if you'll squelch mine ? And good ? Yours humbly